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    The omniscience of God is dependent on God, and not vice ... — Carmelics
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    The omniscience of God is dependent on God, and not vice versa.

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    • 1.x can depend on y even if both are necessary beings.
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    • 2.The set {7} depends on 7 for its existence and necessity, not vice versa, even though both are necessary.
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    • 1.The set/{7} analogy fails because sets are abstract objects ontologically posterior to their members by standard mereological principles.
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    • 2.God's omniscience, unlike a set, is not composed of God as a constituent element but is classically identified as a divine perfection co-eternal with God.
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    • 3.Aquinas and the classical theist tradition hold that divine attributes are not accidents inhering in God but are identical to the divine essence, dissolving the asymmetry.
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    • 1.If God is identical to His omniscience (as divine simplicity demands), then no asymmetric dependence relation can hold between them.
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    • 2.Asymmetric dependence requires numerical distinctness between relata, which the doctrine of divine simplicity explicitly denies.
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    If you object that persons are substances and thus independent items while property instances are not substances but dependent on substances, Mann’s response will be that the point holds for accidental property instances but not for essential property instances. Socrates may lose his wisdom but he cannot lose his humanity. Now all of God’s properties are essential: God is essentially omniscient, omnipotent, etc. So it seems to Mann that “the omniscience of God is not any more dependent on God than God is on the omniscience of God: should either cease to be, the other would also.” (2015, 37) Th...

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