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    It is not the case that The ontological argument is unsound.

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    • 1.Gaunilo-type parodies fail because 'greatest possible being' is a coherent maximizing concept, while 'perfect island' or 'perfect solvent' are not.
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    • 2.Plantinga's modal ontological argument shows that if maximal greatness is possible, it is actual, and no parody replicates this modal structure with a coherent property.
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    • 3.The incompatibility objection only defeats versions relying on naive greatness-summing, not modal versions that ground greatness in broadly logical necessity.
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    • 1.Descartes and Leibniz argued that the ontological argument is sound conditional on the prior demonstration that the concept of a supremely perfect being is internally consistent.
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    • 2.If God's existence follows necessarily from a coherent concept of maximal perfection, then the argument's validity cannot be defeated merely by generating structurally analogous but incoherent parodies.
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    • 1.Strengthened Gaunilo-type objections can construct versions of the ontological argument that lead to mutually incompatible conclusions, such as the existence of a perfect solvent together with a perfectly insoluble substance.
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    • 2.If the logical form of an argument is such that arguments of precisely the same form generate contradictions, then the argument must be unsound.
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