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    The performative impossibility of abandoning a framework ... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→It is incoherent to be sceptical about the identification procedures that confirm spatio-temporal re-identifications while still thinking within the spatio-temporal framework.

    The performative impossibility of abandoning a framework does not entail the logical incoherence of skeptical doubt about its constitutive procedures, since practical and semantic incoherence are distinct.

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    • 1.Practical constraints (we must use language to doubt language) differ fundamentally from logical contradictions in propositional content.
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    • 2.Semantic coherence concerns truth conditions; performative coherence concerns action consistency. These are orthogonal properties.
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    • 3.We can coherently express doubt about a framework's foundations while necessarily operating within it—like questioning physics while using math.
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    • 1.If a framework constitutes the very conditions for meaningful doubt, then doubting those conditions undermines the intelligibility of the doubt itself.
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    • 2.The distinction between practical and semantic incoherence collapses when the framework in question structures semantic content itself.
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    • 3.Acknowledging performative impossibility while maintaining logical coherence may simply mask rather than resolve the underlying tension.
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    Key Terms

    Constitutive procedures(as used in philosophy of language and logic)
    The basic steps or rules that make something what it is—the things that have to happen for a system or framework to actually work.
    Logical incoherence(as used in logic and reasoning)
    A situation where two ideas contradict each other in a way that makes them impossible to both be true at the same time.
    Performative impossibility(as used in philosophy of language and epistemology)
    Something that you logically cannot do in practice, even if you might be able to think or talk about it theoretically—like trying to prove that language doesn't exist using language.
    Practical incoherence(as used in philosophy of action and epistemology)
    When something is impossible to actually do in real life, even if it doesn't logically contradict itself.
    Semantic incoherence(as used in philosophy of language)
    When something doesn't make sense in terms of meaning or what words refer to—like trying to describe a color that has no name.
    Skeptical doubt(as used in epistemology)
    Questioning whether you can really know something or whether something is actually true, even things that seem obvious.
    framework(Carnap's philosophy of language and logic)
    A structured system of rules or language that must be in place for rational discourse to be possible.

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