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    The phenomenal empirical world and nondual brahman do not stand in genuine contradiction because they belong to asymmetrical orders of reality.

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    • 1.The conventional empirical reality (vyāvahārikasattā) and ultimate reality (pāramārthikasattā) constitute a two-tiered hierarchy.
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    • 2.A hierarchy of asymmetrical orders avoids mutual contradiction between its levels.
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    • 1.Asymmetrical ontological hierarchies still require a coherent account of the relation between levels, which itself must belong to one tier or neither.
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    • 2.If the relation between vyāvahārika and pāramārthika belongs to neither tier, a third ontological category is implicitly introduced, undermining the two-tiered schema.
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    • 3.If the relation belongs to the ultimate tier, then empirical reality is genuinely internal to brahman, collapsing the asymmetry that was meant to prevent contradiction.
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    • 1.Rāmānuja argues in the Śrī-Bhāṣya that calling empirical experience 'lower reality' rather than 'false' still grants it a determinate ontological status brahman must accommodate.
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    • 2.A brahman that accommodates a lower order of real appearance is itself conditioned by that appearance, violating Śankara's claim of brahman's absolute non-relational purity.
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    • 3.Therefore the asymmetrical hierarchy either demotes empirical reality to sheer illusion—reinstating contradiction—or qualifies brahman, defeating non-dualism.
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    For Śaṅkara, the existence of the phenomenal empirical world alongside that of nondual brahman is in fact an illusory false reality. They are one, not two. Yet the world’s indeterminable appearance sets up a two-tiered (or two truths or two orders) approach to reality: (1) The conventional intersubjective empirical reality (vyāvahārikasattā) that comprises the universe; and (2) the ultimate reality (pāramārthikasattā) of nondual existence that is brahman. This hierarchy of two orders and their a
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