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    It is not the case that The phenomenology of respect involves both pain and pleasure

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    • 1.Kant's 'respect' (Achtung) is explicitly categorized as a feeling sui generis, irreducible to the hedonic pleasure/pain distinction.
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    • 2.Classifying Achtung under pleasure and pain smuggles empirical psychology into a framework Kant insists must be purely a priori.
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    • 3.Kant states in the Groundwork that respect is not received through influence but self-wrought, making hedonic categories categorically inapplicable.
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    • 1.Rawls argues in his Kant lectures that the 'pain' of humiliation and 'pleasure' of ennoblement are phenomenologically simultaneous, not sequential, constituting a unitary motivational state.
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    • 2.If humiliation and ennoblement are not separable experiential components but aspects of one undivided recognition, the compound pleasure/pain analysis commits a mereological fallacy.
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    • 3.A unitary phenomenological state cannot be adequately analyzed by decomposing it into independently characterized hedonic parts without distorting its essential structure.
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    • 1.The moral law humiliates the agent by striking down her self-conceit, producing pain
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    • 2.The moral law invigorates and ennobles the agent because it originates from the agent's own reason and represents her higher self and vocation, producing pleasure
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