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    It is not the case that The puzzling existence of the universe can be made comprehensible if we suppose it is brought about by a personal God with intentional beliefs and the power to bring intentions to fruition.

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.Explaining X by positing Y only reduces puzzlement if Y is itself less puzzling than X.
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    • 2.A personal God with intentional states, desires, and causal powers is at least as ontologically puzzling as a contingent universe.
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    • 3.Swinburne's inference therefore relocates rather than resolves the explanatory demand, violating Leibniz's own cosmological standard.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Intentional explanation requires a pre-existing psychological framework of beliefs, desires, and rational agency.
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    • 2.Applying intentional categories to a being prior to and independent of any physical or temporal substrate is categorically incoherent, as Kant argues in the Critique of Pure Reason's Transcendental Dialectic.
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    • 3.A purported explanation that deploys categorically inapplicable concepts fails to render the explanandum genuinely comprehensible.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.It is very unlikely that a universe would exist uncaused, but more likely that God would exist uncaused.
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    • 2.It is likely that if there is a God, he will make something like the finite and complex universe.
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    • 3.God can will to act on his intentions directly, providing a simple account of why things came to exist.
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