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    It is not the case that The same Hebrew idioms applied to Edom in Isaiah 34 describe complete conquest, not literal extinction, undermining the annihilationist inference.

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    • 1.Isaiah 34 uses escalating imagery (fire, smoke, perpetual desolation) distinctly more extreme than standard conquest language, suggesting permanence beyond political defeat.
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    • 2.Idioms function contextually; the same phrase can denote different degrees of severity depending on accompanying descriptors and literary genre expectations.
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    • 3.Edomite disappearance as a distinct political entity may reflect literal destruction rather than mere conquest, making the argument from later sources inconclusive.
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    • 1.Isaiah 34's language about Edom parallels other biblical conquest narratives using identical idioms that denote political/military defeat, not annihilation.
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    • 2.Ancient Near Eastern hyperbolic rhetoric routinely employed total-destruction language for comprehensive subjugation without literal extinction of populations.
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    • 3.If these idioms meant literal extinction, historical records would show Edomite civilization vanishing completely; instead, Edomites appear in later biblical and extra-biblical sources.
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