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    The self is fundamentally social in character. — Carmelics
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    The self is fundamentally social in character.

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    • 1.The self is essentially dependent on thought and other aspects of human mental life.
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    • 2.The self is defined in its specific identity by thought and human mental life.
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    • 3.Thought and human mental life are fundamentally social in character.
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    • 1.Phenomenological analysis reveals a pre-reflective self-awareness that is structurally prior to any social encounter or linguistic formation.
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    • 2.Husserl's transcendental ego and Sartre's pre-reflective cogito demonstrate that the minimal self is constituted through temporal self-givenness, not intersubjectivity.
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    • 3.If the ground of selfhood is non-social, social relations can shape but cannot constitute the self fundamentally.
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    • 1.Locke, Hume, and the Buddhist anattā tradition each identify personal identity through introspective access to experiential continuity, independent of social recognition.
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    • 2.The logical possibility of a cognitively intact self surviving total social isolation—as in Descartes' meditating subject—shows social embeddedness is contingent, not constitutive.
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    • 3.What is contingently formative of a self's character cannot be what is fundamental to its existence as a self.
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    Thought is fundamentally social in character.90%Linguistic meaning is fundamentally social in character.86%Thought and human mental life are fundamentally social in character.85%Human mental life more broadly is fundamentally social in character.83%

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    In a further seminal move in the philosophy of mind Herder argues that linguistic meaning is fundamentally social—so that thought and other aspects of human mental life (since they are essentially articulated in terms of linguistic meanings), and therefore even the very self (since the self is essentially dependent on thought and other aspects of human mental life, and moreover defined in its specific identity by theirs), are so too. Herder’s version of this position seems intended only as an em
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