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    The self that a friend perceives is at least partly a pro... — Carmelics
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    The self that a friend perceives is at least partly a product of the friendship itself.

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    • 1.A friend's interpretation of one's strengths and weaknesses can cause one to develop a new self-understanding.
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    • 2.That new self-understanding can lead to actual changes in oneself.
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    • 3.These changes are a direct response to the friend's interpretation, not to independent self-reflection.
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    • 1.Locke and the psychological continuity tradition hold that personal identity is constituted by memory and continuity of consciousness, not by relational perception.
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    • 2.If identity is grounded in first-person psychological continuity, then a friend's third-person interpretation can reveal or misrepresent the self but cannot constitute it.
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    • 3.The supporting argument conflates causal influence on behavior with ontological constitution of identity, a distinction Parfit's reductionism explicitly preserves.
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    • 1.Aristotle's account of the virtuous self in the Nicomachean Ethics grounds character in stable hexis formed through habituation prior to and independent of any particular friendship.
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    • 2.If the self a friend perceives is already substantially formed by pre-relational virtue and habituation, the friendship is epistemically revelatory rather than constitutively generative of that self.
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    Cocking & Kennett (1998), in what might be a development of Rorty (1986/1993), offer an account of close friendship in part in terms of the friends playing a more active role in transforming each other’s evaluative outlook: in friendship, they claim, we are “receptive” to having our friends “direct” and “interpret” us and thereby change our interests. To be directed by your friend is to allow her interests, values, etc. to shape your own; thus, your friend may suggest that you go to the oper
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