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    It is not the case that The Stoic supporting argument conflates 'not unconditionally beneficial' with 'not genuinely good', but most recognized goods admit of misuse without losing their status as goods.

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    • 1.For Stoics, only virtue is good because only virtue is always beneficial regardless of circumstances or agent's state.
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    • 2.Health, wealth, and reputation can genuinely harm the vicious person; calling them 'good' obscures this Stoic insight.
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    • 3.The conflation charge assumes goods must be separable from their proper use—but perhaps they're definitionally tied to it.
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    • 1.Intelligence can be misused for harm, yet we recognize it as genuinely good; misusability doesn't negate genuine goodness.
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    • 2.A good's value depends on its nature and typical use, not on whether every possible application benefits the user.
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    • 3.Stoics must distinguish between 'unconditionally beneficial' and 'genuinely good' or collapse ordinary moral judgments.
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