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    It is not the case that The theory neatly sidesteps a number of common objections to three-self theories.

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.A group-self that grounds divine pronoun use still faces Plantinga's grounding objection: numerical identity of the one God requires more than collective selfhood.
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    • 2.If God is a self in virtue of being a unified group, the unity relation between persons must itself be explained, generating a regress or an unexplained primitive.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Swinburne and Leftow argue that any theory positing a group-self risks making the Trinity's unity merely Cambridge unity, not genuine ontological oneness.
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    • 2.Classical theism, from Augustine through Aquinas, requires divine simplicity such that God's selfhood cannot be constituted by or dependent on relational composition.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.In this theory, God is a self and not merely a group or a composite object which is less than a self.
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    • 2.As a literal self, personal pronouns may be literally used of God.
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    • 3.This group which is a 'he' can have the divine attributes which imply being a self, such as omniscience and moral perfection.
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