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    It is not the case that The visual analogy fails because light-occluded objects have continuous spatial location grounding persistence, whereas a silenced sound source emits no wave disturbance and thus has no comparable physical continuant.

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    • 1.Sound sources persist spatially even when silent; the speaker's vocal cords exist and have location regardless of vibration state.
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    • 2.Light-occluded objects are unobservable yet we credit them existence; similarly, non-emitting sources exist but lack observable waves.
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    • 3.The analogy concerns identity through concealment, not physical continuants; both cases involve absent sensory access to existent entities.
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    • 1.Occluded objects retain determinate spatial coordinates; silenced sources have no physical substrate emitting waves, creating asymmetry.
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    • 2.Persistence requires continuous existence of some physical property; silence is absence of property, not a property itself.
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    • 3.We can locate an occluded object by removing occlusion; we cannot locate silence by amplifying absence.
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