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    Inverse View

    It is not the case that The whole world is a product of mind — specifically, the collective mental actions (karma) of all beings.

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.Vasubandhu's vijñaptimātratā ('representation-only') doctrine concerns epistemic access, not the ontological generation of a shared physical world.
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    • 2.Collective karma requires a causal mechanism coordinating separate mindstreams, but Buddhist no-self doctrine denies any supra-individual mental substance that could serve this role.
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    • 3.Candrakīrti (Madhyamakāvatāra VI.40-45) explicitly rejected Yogācāra idealism, arguing it cannot account for intersubjective experience without smuggling in a covert Ātman.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Dharmakirti's pramāṇavāda establishes that valid cognition must be causally responsive to external particulars (svalakṣaṇa), implying mind-independent causal relata.
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    • 2.If the world were solely a product of collective karma, perceptual error and correction would lack a principled explanation, since no external standard could distinguish veridical from illusory experience.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Objects do not exist outside the mind.
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    • 2.The Yogācāra theory of the two truths holds that all phenomena are mind-dependent.
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    • 3.Collective mental actions (karma) of all beings produce the experienced world.
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