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    The world soul has a non-rational aspect that exists prio... — Carmelics
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    The world soul has a non-rational aspect that exists prior to the cosmos

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    • 1.The human soul has both rational and non-rational aspects that fight for dominance
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    • 2.The human soul is derivative from and reflects the nature of the world soul
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    • 3.Therefore the world soul also has a non-rational aspect
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    • 1.Plato's Timaeus depicts the Demiurge imposing rational order on pre-cosmic chaos that is external to soul, not an intrinsic feature of world soul itself.
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    • 2.Plutarch's reading conflates the receptacle (chora) as a source of disorder with the world soul, committing a category error between substrate and psychic principle.
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    • 3.If pre-cosmic disorder belongs to matter rather than soul, the world soul need not contain non-rationality as a constitutive element prior to cosmogony.
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    • 1.The analogy from human soul to world soul is weakened by the fact that human souls are embodied and their non-rational parts arise from somatic passions, per Aristotle's De Anima.
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    • 2.A derivative entity may exhibit properties that its source does not possess, so the presence of non-rationality in human souls does not entail its presence in the world soul.
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    Further, the existence of a pre-cosmic non-rational soul is suggested also if one considers the world soul and the human soul in conjunction. Already the Timaeus (34c, 41d-e, 69c) suggests a relation between the two. Plutarch takes the human soul to be derivative from the world soul, which means that their natures are similar (De an. procr. 1025A-D; see below, sect. 5). In Republic 4, in the Phaedrus and also in the Timaeus it is argued that the human soul has a rational and a non-rational asp
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