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    Theoretical knowledge of rhetoric alone is insufficient for rhetorical mastery

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    • 1.The student of rhetoric must observe souls and speeches in real life and in actual practice
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    • 2.The student must be able to follow real instances with keen perception
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    • 3.Knowing soul-types and speech-types in the abstract does not entail being able to recognize and apply them in a particular encounter
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    • 1.Systematic theoretical knowledge of rhetoric, as Aristotle argues in the Rhetoric, constitutes a techne that subsumes particular cases under universal principles.
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    • 2.A fully articulated techne provides decision procedures sufficient for correct action without requiring separately acquired perceptual habituation.
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    • 3.If theoretical mastery entails knowledge of all soul-types and their appropriate speeches, the gap between abstract and particular collapses at the level of complete theory.
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    • 1.Chomsky's competence-performance distinction implies that theoretical mastery of a generative system is logically separable from its imperfect real-world deployment.
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    • 2.Failures of application in practice reflect performance limitations—fatigue, distraction, speed—rather than deficiencies in the underlying theoretical knowledge itself.
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    knowledge(Distinguished from mere true belief, which may be the product of indoctrination and need not exercise deliberative capacities.)
    Justified true belief — true belief that has been arrived at through the exercise of deliberative capacities, including comparison of and deliberation among alternatives.

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    Philosophy aims at true definitions and true stories based on them. But it also aims at persuasion, since the philosophical lover wants to persuade his boy to follow him on the path to the forms. Philosophy and rhetoric must thus go together, which means that rhetoric, too, must be developed as a technê. It must, first, distinguish and give definitions of the various kinds of souls and kinds of speeches, revealing their respective capacities and susceptibilities, and, second, “coordinate each ki
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