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    There is no non-arbitrary way to identify which group of ... — Carmelics
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    There is no non-arbitrary way to identify which group of perceivers is detecting the real color of an object under Color Primitivism Realism.

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    • 1.Under primitivism, colors are observer-independent intrinsic properties, yet their only epistemic access point remains perceptual appearance to observers.
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    • 2.When perceptual appearances systematically diverge across equally healthy visual systems, no appearance-independent criterion exists to adjudicate which appearance tracks the primitive property.
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    • 3.This epistemic gap between the primitive property and its only access route entails that any selection of a privileged perceiver group is stipulative rather than principled.
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    • 1.Cohen and Matthen's work on perceptual variation establishes that inter-observer chromatic differences reflect genuine biological variation, not mere noise or defect.
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    • 2.If multiple observer types represent stable, evolutionarily viable perceptual systems, the primitivist cannot appeal to biological normalcy to privilege one group's chromatic verdicts over another's.
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    • 3.Without a naturalistically grounded standard of chromatic correctness independent of any particular observer class, the primitivist's realism collapses into an undefended indexical preference.
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    • 1.Normal perceivers divide into different groups on whether a body's color is unique blue, slightly reddish-blue, more reddish blue, or greenish blue.
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    • 2.The only way to determine what primitivist color a body has is by the way the color appears to observers.
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    • 3.At most one group of perceivers is correct about the real color, but there is no principled basis for selecting which group that is.
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    Another major problem for the realist version of Color Primitivism is one that Hardin (2004, 2008) and Cohen (2009) have especially stressed. They draw attention to a vast range of facts concerning the variety of conditions under which objects appear to have the colors they do, and the variety of classes of observers for whom the colors appear. Since the only way to determine what primitivist color a body has is by the way it appears, this raises the question of which is the body’s real color. N
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