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    There is nothing mysterious about teleology. — Carmelics
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    There is nothing mysterious about teleology.

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    • 1.Purposive mechanisms in engineered systems (such as a robot aeroplane) demonstrate goal-directed behavior through purely causal, mechanical processes.
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    • 2.If teleology can be fully realized in such systems, it requires no non-physical or mysterious explanation.
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    • 1.Engineered teleology presupposes intentional design by minds, making it explanatorily circular when used to naturalize teleology.
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    • 2.Charles Taylor argued that genuine teleology requires intrinsic directedness toward ends, not mere extrinsic programming by designers.
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    • 3.Explaining teleology via artifacts smuggles in the very intentionality the account was meant to eliminate.
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    • 1.Nagel's 'Mind and Cosmos' argues that goal-directedness in biological organisms resists reduction to efficient-causal mechanisms, unlike engineered systems.
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    • 2.Biological teleology is not assigned by an external agent but is constitutive of the organism's own nature, making the robot analogy category-mistaken.
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    Thinking very much in causal terms about beliefs and desires fits in very well not only with folk psychology but also with Humean ideas about the motives of action. Though this point of view has been criticised by some philosophers it does seem to be right, as can be seen if we consider a possible robot aeroplane designed to find its way from Melbourne to Sydney. The designer would have to include an electronic version of something like a map of south-eastern Australia. This would provide the ‘b
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