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    It is not the case that There seems to be no time when death, if it is a misfortune, can be ascribed to its unfortunate subject.

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    • 1.A harm can be ascribed to a subject at the time of the events that deprive them of goods, not only when the subject consciously experiences it.
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    • 2.Death deprives a person of future goods during the ante-mortem period when that person still exists as a subject.
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    • 3.Therefore, death as a deprivation harm is ascribable to the living person who will undergo it, grounded in Epictet's and Nagel's deprivation account.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Persons persist through time as four-dimensional entities with temporal parts, such that a future dead stage is a genuine part of the whole person.
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    • 2.A misfortune can be located at the temporal part of an entity most directly affected, even if that part lacks consciousness.
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    • 3.On this perdurance view, death's misfortune is ascribed to the person's terminal temporal stage, dissolving the existential gap Epicurus exploited.
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    • 1.So long as a person exists, he has not yet died.
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    • 2.Once he has died, he no longer exists.
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