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    It is not the case that Therefore, self-government is achieved through integration with one's motives, making self-alienation a symptom of failure, not a requirement.

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    • 1.Some motives are destructive; self-government may require distancing from them, not integrating with all impulses.
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    • 2.Self-discipline and resistance to immediate desires often constitute genuine self-governance, not failure.
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    • 3.Complete integration is psychologically unrealistic; managing conflicting motives is central to mature self-control.
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    • 1.Authentic agency requires acting from desires you endorse upon reflection, not against your deepest values.
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    • 2.Integration with motives reduces internal conflict, enabling coherent decision-making and genuine self-direction.
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    • 3.Self-alienation—acting contrary to integrated motives—undermines autonomy by making external forces govern behavior.
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