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    Therefore, some outcomes remain impermissible to bring ab... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→It is always morally permissible to bring about the best outcome.

    Therefore, some outcomes remain impermissible to bring about because the cost falls on the agent's identity, not merely their preferences.

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    • 1.Personal identity consists of constitutive commitments and values that define who we are, distinct from mere preference satisfaction.
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    • 2.Violating core identity commitments produces a unique harm—self-betrayal—that differs fundamentally from preference frustration.
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    • 3.Moral agency requires maintaining integrity; an agent who systematically betrays their identity loses standing as a responsible moral agent.
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    • 1.The distinction between identity and preferences is unstable; what we call 'identity' is often just deeply entrenched preferences.
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    • 2.If identity-based constraints override outcomes, individuals could refuse necessary moral actions by redefining their identity accordingly.
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