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    It is not the case that Therefore, the fixity of the past is compatible with freedom, because the relevant past belief would itself have been different had your free choice been different.

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.The past is fixed means no fact about the past can vary relative to present choices—including what anyone believed, even God or observers.
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    • 2.Saying 'the belief would have been different' either requires changing the past (impossible) or denies fixity itself (contradicts the premise).
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    • 3.Counterfactual variation in beliefs across possible worlds doesn't make your choice free *in this world* if this world's past is already settled.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.If a belief's truth-value depends on future events, then the past belief itself (not just reality) is counterfactually dependent on those events.
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    • 2.Counterfactual dependence of past facts on present choices is sufficient to preserve libertarian freedom without violating temporal order.
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    • 3.God's or a time-symmetric universe's omniscient beliefs can be re-indexed to different possible worlds without requiring backward causation.
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