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    It is not the case that Therefore, the four-chain argument smuggles in a loop-neutral background situation, begging the question against the coherence of loops within Mellor's own framework.

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    • 1.Identifying background assumptions is not question-begging; it's clarifying what any causal theory must presuppose about temporal structure.
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    • 2.Loops may be incoherent not because of hidden assumptions but because they violate the logical structure Mellor explicitly endorses.
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    • 3.The charge of begging the question requires showing the argument could only convince someone already committed to rejecting loops.
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    • 1.Mellor's framework requires a non-circular foundation to establish causal priority, yet the argument assumes such a foundation without justifying it.
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    • 2.If loops are incoherent in Mellor's system, the argument should derive this from his explicit principles rather than presupposing it.
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    • 3.The four-chain argument gains its persuasive force by treating loop-rejection as background truth rather than demonstrating it.
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