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    It is not the case that Therefore, 'transcending' the sensible world would produce empty abstractions, not perfect knowledge.

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    • 1.Mathematical and logical truths are abstract yet substantive; they transcend sensory experience without becoming empty or meaningless.
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    • 2.Sensory experience itself presupposes non-sensible frameworks (space, time, causality); transcending sensibles may yield knowledge of these conditions.
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    • 3.The claim assumes 'perfect knowledge' must resemble empirical knowledge; but different domains may require different epistemic standards.
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    • 1.Knowledge requires grounding in observable phenomena; claims divorced from sensory data lack empirical verification or falsifiability.
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    • 2.Abstract concepts like 'pure being' or 'the Good itself' lack determinate content without sensible examples to anchor their meaning.
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    • 3.Historical metaphysical systems transcending the sensible world (Platonic forms, Kantian noumena) generate irresolvable disputes, suggesting emptiness.
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