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    It is not the case that Therefore virtues are instrumentally contingent, not intrinsically good, contra the rationalist perfectionist claim.

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    • 1.We value virtues even when they produce no external benefit—the courageous person exemplifies excellence regardless of outcome.
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    • 2.Instrumental goods require further justification via their consequences; virtues seem self-justifying, indicating intrinsic worth.
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    • 3.Contingency claims prove too much: if virtues are only instrumentally good, what makes human flourishing itself intrinsically valuable?
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    • 1.Virtues like courage and honesty produce desired outcomes; without beneficial consequences, they lack justification.
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    • 2.The same virtue (e.g., honesty) can harm in some contexts, suggesting instrumental value depends on contingent circumstances.
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    • 3.If virtues were intrinsically good, we couldn't rationally explain why vicious people often flourish materially.
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