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    Challenges→A person's death does not cause her to have any experiences (sensations).

    This assumption is falsified by ante-mortem harms: being betrayed by a friend who dies before you discover it still wrongs you.

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    • 1.Wrongs are defined by the violation of trust/rights, not by victim awareness. Death doesn't retroactively erase the betrayal that occurred.
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    • 2.You can be harmed by facts about your own past even if you never learn them. The betrayal changes what actually happened to you.
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    • 3.We intuitively judge the betrayer as having wronged you regardless of discovery. Our moral judgments track real wrongs, not just knowledge.
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    • 1.Harm requires some negative experience or diminished wellbeing. Ignorance of betrayal leaves your subjective experience entirely unaffected.
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    • 2.The friend's betrayal may wrong you while living, but once they die, no future wrong can occur to you—only to your memory or relationships.
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    • 3.Confusing 'objective wrongdoing' with 'harm to you specifically' conflates different concepts. One requires actual impact on your interests.
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