Skip to content
Carmelics
TopicsThinkersChangesContributorsLoading account…

    Carmelics

    A reasoning platform. Break down any belief into clear reasons, explore both sides, and weigh the evidence honestly.

    Navigate

    • Topics
    • Search
    • Recent Changes
    • Contribute
    • How It Works
    • Glossary
    • Thinkers
    • Contributors
    • About
    • Statistics
    • Terms
    • Privacy

    Database

    Statements
    —
    Perspectives
    —
    Topics
    —

    Press ? for keyboard shortcuts

    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
    Made withinDC&Austin
    Statements
    321,452
    Perspectives
    108,905
    Topics
    42
    Transcendental arguments aimed at constitutive rather tha... — Carmelics
    Home
    HistoryEditSee Inverse

    Part of a larger discussion

    Challenges→Stroud's objection to transcendental arguments is not limited to the specific cases proposed by Strawson and Shoemaker, but holds broadly across transcendental arguments.

    Transcendental arguments aimed at constitutive rather than epistemic conclusions—establishing what must be the case for experience, not what we can know—do not require the idealist supplement Stroud demands.

    ?Rate how convincing each reason is below to see the overall strength.
    1 reason for
    1 reason against

    Reasons For

    1 perspective
    Reason for
    ?
    • 1.Constitutive claims about necessary conditions for experience differ logically from epistemic claims about knowability.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Stroud's idealist supplement assumes we must validate transcendental arguments through mind-independent reality—but constitutive arguments don't need this validation.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.If space is necessarily presupposed by all human experience, that constitutive truth holds regardless of whether we know reality-in-itself exists.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reasons Against

    1 perspective
    Reason against
    ?
    • 1.Claiming something is constitutive for experience still requires justifying why that necessity holds—which raises the same epistemological challenges Stroud identified.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Without the idealist supplement, we cannot rule out that our constitutive structures merely reflect our cognitive architecture, not reality's actual requirements.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.The distinction between constitutive and epistemic conclusions collapses when explaining why constitutive claims about experience should convince us about metaphysics.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Sign in or register to share your perspective on this statement.

    Next step

    Based on where you are in your exploration

    Strongest counterpoint
    Explore the most compelling reason on the other side.

    Key Terms

    Epistemic
    "Epistemic" relates to knowledge—how we know things, what counts as knowledge, and whether we can trust what we believe to be true. It comes from the Greek word for knowledge and is used to describe questions about the reliability and validity of our beliefs and understanding. For example, "epistemic humility" means acknowledging the limits of what you can actually know for certain.
    Idealist supplement(as used in metaphysics)
    An addition to an argument based on idealism, the philosophical view that reality depends on the mind or experience—the idea that things only exist as they are experienced.
    Stroud(referring to a specific philosopher's argument)
    Barry Stroud is a philosopher who has written about knowledge and skepticism—he questions whether we can really know things about the world, and his work often focuses on the limits of human understanding.
    constitutive(an alternative type of relationship the grounding relation might be)
    Describes how something is made up of or formed from basic components that define its essential nature.
    transcendental arguments(Epistemology of self-knowledge)
    Arguments that assume the existence of some sort of experience or capacity, then develop insights about the background conditions necessary for that experience or capacity, and finally conclude that those background conditions must in fact be met.

    Connections

    2 topics

    Modality & Possibility1 linkedSkepticism1 linked

    Related

    Claiming something is constitutive for experience still requires justifying why ...Constitutive claims about necessary conditions for experience differ logically f...

    Details

    Type
    claim
    Perspectives
    2 (1 for, 1 against)
    Edits
    1 edit
    If space is necessarily presupposed by all human experience, that constitutive t...
    Stroud's idealist supplement assumes we must validate transcendental arguments t...
    +3 moreShow less
    Stroud's objection to transcendental arguments is not limited to the specific ca...The distinction between constitutive and epistemic conclusions collapses when ex...Without the idealist supplement, we cannot rule out that our constitutive struct...