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    Challenges→Members of the second machine class do not provide realistic representations of the complexity costs involved in concretely embodied computation

    Turing's original formalization and subsequent Church-Turing thesis demonstrate that abstraction from physical substrate is methodologically legitimate and theoretically productive.

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    Key Terms

    Alan Turing(the philosopher/scientist being referenced)
    A British mathematician who pioneered computer science and artificial intelligence; he's famous for asking whether machines can think.
    Church-Turing thesis(Presented as a thesis about the upper bound of computational power, not a proven fact.)
    The thesis that no computational system stronger than the class of Turing machines exists.
    Formalization(describing what Frege did with existence)
    The process of taking an idea and expressing it precisely using logical symbols and strict rules, like translating messy everyday language into mathematical logic.
    Methodologically legitimate(describing whether the abstraction is a proper approach)
    Acceptable and justified as a valid way of studying or investigating something; it follows reasonable rules for doing research or analysis.

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    Physical substrate(philosophy of mind)
    The actual physical 'stuff' or structure that makes something happen—like how your brain is the physical substrate for your thoughts.
    Theoretically productive(describing the value of the abstraction)
    Leads to useful insights, new understanding, or helpful conclusions; generates meaningful results for understanding a topic.
    abstraction(Godfrey, Quodlibet V, q. 10)
    The process by which the agent intellect draws out potentially intelligible content from phantasms, making that content available to the possible intellect

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