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    It is not the case that Undefinability under conditionalization reveals a substantive logical role, not an eliminable convenience.

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    • 1.Undefinability via conditionalization may reflect limitations of a particular formal framework, not deep metaphysical or logical necessity.
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    • 2.Alternative logical systems (multi-valued, paraconsistent) define conditionals through other means, suggesting undefinability is framework-dependent.
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    • 3.Calling something a 'substantive role' risks conflating practical indispensability in a system with irreducible logical primacy.
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    • 1.Some logical operators (like the conditional itself) cannot be defined using only other operators without circularity or infinite regress.
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    • 2.If a concept plays a foundational role that other definitions depend upon, eliminating it would collapse rather than simplify the logical system.
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    • 3.Undefinability often indicates primitiveness—a fundamental feature rather than a notational artifact needing removal.
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