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    It is not the case that Universalism is the true Hell

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.Divine omnipotence does not extend to logical contradictions, including overriding libertarian free will without negating freedom itself.
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    • 2.If free creatures can permanently reject God, universal salvation becomes impossible even for an omnipotent being, as Alvin Plantinga's free will defense establishes.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Scripture and patristic tradition distinguish between God's antecedent will (desiring all saved) and consequent will (permitting rejection), as John of Damascus articulated.
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    • 2.The inference from 'God desires X' to 'God ensures X obtains' commits a modal fallacy by collapsing permissive and efficacious divine willing.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.God desires for all to have salvation
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    • 2.God does everything He desires and is able to do
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    • 3.God is able to do anything
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