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    It is not the case that Universalists like Origen and contemporary philosopher Thomas Talbott argue God's infinite resourcefulness entails He can bring all rational wills to freely choose Him across time.

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    • 1.Genuine libertarian free will requires the logical possibility of rejecting God's offer; infinite resourcefulness cannot eliminate this possibility.
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    • 2.Some rational creatures may possess fixed, eternal character commitments that prevent certain outcomes regardless of divine ingenuity.
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    • 3.The claim conflates power-to-influence with power-to-guarantee-outcomes; persuasion differs fundamentally from ensuring agreement.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.An omnipotent being can design circumstances where any rational agent freely chooses rightly without coercion or manipulation.
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    • 2.Eternal conscious torment seems disproportionate to finite sins, making divine mercy through universal reconciliation more coherent.
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    • 3.If God is perfectly loving, He desires all His creatures' ultimate flourishing, not their permanent separation from Him.
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