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    It is not the case that Universalists like Thomas Talbott argue divine love is logically incompatible with accepting any creature's permanent self-destruction as a final outcome.

    ?Set your confidence on the premises below to see your aggregate.

    Reasons For

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    • 1.Respecting libertarian free will may require accepting that some creatures could eternally reject salvation.
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    • 2.Love compatible with justice might permit consequences for persistent rebellion, including separation from God.
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    • 3.Logical compatibility between divine attributes doesn't entail every logically possible outcome occurs.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.An omnipotent being can achieve any goal, including universal reconciliation, without logical contradiction.
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    • 2.Perfect love necessarily wills the good of the beloved; permanent destruction contradicts willing anyone's ultimate good.
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    • 3.Allowing permanent loss of a creature one loves and could save is incompatible with maximal love.
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