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    It is not the case that Using damned souls instrumentally as conditions for others' salvation treats persons as means, violating the Kantian constraint that even divine ends cannot justify such use of rational beings.

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    • 1.Damned souls may have forfeited dignity claims through their own free choices, making instrumental use morally permissible.
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    • 2.The Kantian principle assumes moral constraints bind all agents equally; it doesn't establish why omnipotent beings should be bound this way.
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    • 3.Salvation of the righteous through damnation of the wicked may be a natural consequence of justice, not instrumental use of persons.
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    • 1.Rational beings possess inherent dignity that cannot be overridden by external purposes, even divine ones.
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    • 2.Using damned souls' suffering as instrumental means for others' salvation treats them as mere tools, not ends in themselves.
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    • 3.Kantian constraints on agency apply universally; divine status doesn't exempt God from moral constraints on instrumentalizing persons.
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