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    It is not the case that Valla's reduction of virtue to instrumental pleasure commits a genetic fallacy: the painful origin of virtuous habit does not determine the intrinsic nature of its end.

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    • 1.If virtues only endure because pleasure-seeking reinforces them, pleasure remains the ultimate motivational ground, not a mere origin.
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    • 2.The distinction between 'origin' and 'intrinsic nature' assumes these can be cleanly separated, but psychological conditioning may constitute their nature.
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    • 1.Origins of beliefs are distinct from their truth-value; a painful discovery process doesn't invalidate the intrinsic merit of what's discovered.
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    • 2.Once virtuous habits mature, they generate their own intrinsic satisfaction independent of their initial painful acquisition.
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    • 3.Confusing causal genesis with essential nature is a recognized logical fallacy that Valla's argument appears to commit.
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