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    It is not the case that Vigorous pursuit requires motivational investment, and motivational investment presupposes that the object matters to the agent as an end.

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    • 1.Instrumental motivation (pursuing X to achieve Y) can sustain vigorous effort without X mattering as an end in itself.
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    • 2.Habituation and social obligation can generate sustained vigor without the agent viewing outcomes as intrinsically valuable ends.
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    • 3.The claim conflates psychological feeling of mattering with metaphysical status as an end, which are conceptually distinct.
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    • 1.Sustained effort without intrinsic commitment typically leads to burnout, disengagement, and abandonment of the pursuit.
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    • 2.People reliably distinguish between actions done for external reward versus those pursued because the goal itself matters to them.
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    • 3.Vigorous pursuit exhibits characteristics—persistence through obstacles, creative problem-solving—explained by treating the end as intrinsically valued.
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