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    We must deny that things-in-themselves possess spatio-temporal structure

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    • 1.Any isomorphism between knowledge and the known must be necessary
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    • 2.There is no ground to assert a necessary isomorphism between the spatio-temporal structure of our experience and the spatio-temporal structure of things as they are in themselves
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    • 1.Transcendental idealism's own coherence requires things-in-themselves to causally affect sensibility, presupposing temporal succession.
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    • 2.Causal affection between things-in-themselves and the mind implicitly attributes temporal priority to the noumenal cause.
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    • 3.A thing-in-itself that causally precedes experience cannot be wholly stripped of temporal structure without making affection unintelligible.
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    • 1.Structural realists like Worrall argue that science tracks the relational structure of mind-independent reality, not merely appearances.
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    • 2.If successful scientific theories preserve structural features across theory change, those structures plausibly belong to things-in-themselves.
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    • 3.Denying spatio-temporal structure to things-in-themselves conflicts with the explanatory success of physics, which quantifies over such structures mind-independently.
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    The decisive point of this argument is the following: although because of our forms of intuition our particular representations necessarily have spatio-temporal structure, any objects that had that structure independently of our so representing them would at best have such structure contingently, and thus the supposedly synthetic a priori propositions about space, time, and their mathematics would not be necessarily true throughout their domain. This argument thus exploits the key epistemologica
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