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    It is not the case that What makes people good is [always] good

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    • 1.A quality that produces goodness in persons (e.g., ruthless self-discipline) need not itself be morally good in all contexts.
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    • 2.The relationship between cause and effect does not require the cause to share the evaluative properties of the effect.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Aristotle distinguishes between instrumental and intrinsic goods: what produces virtue instrumentally need not be virtuous itself.
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    • 2.Harsh adversity and suffering can cultivate virtuous character without adversity itself being good, as Stoic accounts of character-formation acknowledge.
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    Reasons Against

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    • {If x makes y F, then x is always F}
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