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    Whatever the visual arts include must give way completely... — Carmelics
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    Whatever the visual arts include must give way completely to beauty if not compatible with beauty, or be subordinate to beauty if compatible with it.

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    • 1.Among the ancients, beauty was the supreme law of the visual arts.
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    • 2.Whatever is the supreme law of a domain takes precedence over all other elements within that domain.
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    • 1.Hegel argued that art's highest vocation is the sensuous presentation of truth and Spirit, not the instantiation of beauty.
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    • 2.When artistic expression of historical, religious, or conceptual content conflicts with formal beauty, the content retains its artistic legitimacy.
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    • 3.Therefore, beauty functions as one criterion among several in visual art rather than as sovereign law over all other elements.
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    • 1.The sublime, as theorized by Burke and Kant, produces genuine aesthetic value through terror and formlessness that beauty cannot subsume.
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    • 2.If a category of aesthetic value exists that beauty cannot subsume or govern, beauty cannot be the supreme law of visual art.
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    that among the ancients beauty was the supreme law of the visual arts. Once this has been established, it necessarily follows that whatever else these arts may include must give way completely if not compatible with beauty, and, if compatible, must at least be subordinate to it.
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