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    When Jones asks whether he would have existed if created ... — Carmelics
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    Supports→The question of whether a person would have existed under slightly different causal origins cannot be resolved by appeal to overlap of physical constitution alone.

    When Jones asks whether he would have existed if created from a slightly modified sperm and the same egg, at least three distinct answers are coherent — indicating the question is not settled by physical overlap.

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    Jones(as used in logic and philosophy examples)
    A made-up person used as an example in a philosophical argument (like using 'John' or 'Sally' in a math problem).
    Physical overlap(as used in personal identity philosophy)
    The idea that two things are the same or are the same person because they share the same physical material or genetic code.
    Sperm and egg (biological context)(as used in the thought experiment about identity)
    The male and female reproductive cells that combine to create a unique genetic blueprint for a new person.

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    Why is this so? Imagine the case where we are not sure whether it would have been Jones’ body – and, hence, Jones – that would have been created by the slightly modified sperm and the same egg. Can we say, as we would for an object with no consciousness, that the story something the same, something different is the whole story: that overlap of constitution is all there is to it? For the Jones body as such, this approach would do as well as for any other physical object. But suppose Jones, in ref

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