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    With the disclosure of one's own being as being-for-and-w... — Carmelics
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    With the disclosure of one's own being as being-for-and-with-others, the being of other individuals becomes simultaneously disclosed as possessing that same feature

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    • 1.One's own being is disclosed as being-for-and-with-others
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    • 2.An individual does not need to find a separate path to another individual
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    • 3.The disclosure of one's own relational being carries with it the disclosure of others as equally relational beings
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    • 1.Husserl's Fifth Cartesian Meditation shows that other minds are constituted through analogical apperception, not co-disclosed in one's own self-understanding.
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    • 2.The 'pairing' association that grounds intersubjectivity requires a distinct inferential step beyond self-disclosure, making simultaneous co-disclosure implausible.
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    • 1.Sartre argues in Being and Nothingness that the Other is fundamentally encountered as a threat to one's freedom, not as a symmetrical co-relational being.
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    • 2.If the Other's gaze constitutes me as an object, the structure of intersubjectivity is asymmetric and conflictual, not the mutual relational disclosure the claim assumes.
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    To some, it would appear to be an obvious fact that individuals are able to understand others, in their being and essence, both as alike and other than themselves. From a phenomenological standpoint, however, this fact is a problem which is neither obvious nor easy to explain, and it is a problem whose solution was viewed differently by both Ortega and Husserl. For Husserl, the solution to this problem was found in his notion of Einfühlung (“empathy”, or literally, “feeling oneself into another”
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