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    It is not the case that Without a coherent cardinal scaling of offense severity to punishment severity, retributivism collapses into intuition-tracking rather than principled justification.

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    • 1.No comprehensive cardinal scaling exists even in advanced systems; yet retributivism remains defensible as an ordinal (comparative) principle.
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    • 2.All moral principles—including consequentialism—rely partly on intuitive judgments; this doesn't invalidate retributivism uniquely.
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    • 3.Principled frameworks can accommodate reasonable disagreement about severity weights while still constraining arbitrariness within narrow bounds.
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    • 1.Punishment without proportional scaling to offense severity becomes arbitrary, making it indistinguishable from mere preference or emotion.
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    • 2.Retributivism's core claim is that justice requires deserved punishment; without cardinal scaling, desert claims lack objective grounding.
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    • 3.Courts that lack explicit proportionality standards produce inconsistent sentences for similar crimes, undermining legitimacy and rule of law.
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