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    It is not the case that Without a neutral metalanguage, the contrast between epistemic reduction and factual reference is itself framework-dependent, not foundational.

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    • 1.Logical truths like non-contradiction hold across frameworks, suggesting some framework-transcendent rational constraints exist.
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    • 2.The claim's own assertion about framework-dependence assumes it's more true than its negation—presupposing non-relative truth standards.
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    • 3.Empirical facts (water boils at 100°C) maintain consistent reference across different conceptual frameworks about temperature.
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    • 1.Quine's indeterminacy of translation shows all meaning depends on interpretive frameworks with no theory-neutral observation language.
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    • 2.The reduction/reference distinction itself requires conceptual categories that vary across different formal systems and ontologies.
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    • 3.Any attempt to step outside frameworks to evaluate them uses another framework, making foundational neutrality logically impossible.
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