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    Challenges→Cultivating feelings that make people disregard happiness in particular cases is justified because doing so produces more happiness in the world overall.

    Without an independent normative premise bridging the causal claim to the justification, the argument commits the naturalistic fallacy Mill himself was accused of in Utilitarianism chapter four.

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    Causal claim(the main subject being evaluated in the statement)
    A statement that says one thing directly causes or makes another thing happen, rather than just happening at the same time.
    Mill(as the subject being discussed)
    John Stuart Mill was a 19th-century British philosopher who wrote influential ideas about liberty, happiness, and what makes a good life.
    Utilitarianism(One of Sidgwick's three methods of ethics)
    The view that an individual self-evidently ought to aim at the maximum balance of happiness for all sentient beings present and future, whatever the cost to herself; also called Universalistic Hedonism
    chapter four(as a historical reference)
    A specific section of Mill's book 'Utilitarianism' where critics argued he committed the naturalistic fallacy by deriving moral conclusions from factual observations.

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    justification(Third condition of the tripartite account of knowledge)
    The condition on a knower's belief that excludes mere luck — the belief must be held in a way that is appropriate or warranted, not merely accidentally correct.
    naturalistic fallacy(G. E. Moore's term, introduced in 1903, applied to any attempt to reduce moral properties to naturalistically specifiable properties.)
    The error of supposing that a moral property is identical to some natural property, however that natural property might be specified.
    normative premise(skeptical arguments against the justificatory power of intuitions)
    A premise in a skeptical argument that states a necessary condition on the justification of belief.

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