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    Women have no free human existence or subjectivity of the... — Carmelics
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    Women have no free human existence or subjectivity of their own.

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    • 1.Women are always the Other in relation to men, who are always the One.
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    • 2.Being the Other means living only in relation to the One.
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    • 3.Living only in relation to the One precludes independent subjectivity.
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    • 1.Sartrean existentialism holds that consciousness (pour-soi) is inherently self-defining and cannot be fully determined by external relational structures.
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    • 2.If women possess consciousness, they retain the ontological capacity for radical freedom regardless of social oppression.
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    • 3.Therefore, the claim conflates contingent historical subjugation with a necessary metaphysical condition, a category error Beauvoir herself acknowledged.
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    • 1.Wollstonecraft's Vindication demonstrates women have historically exercised reason, moral agency, and self-authorship despite patriarchal constraints.
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    • 2.Empirical evidence of women's subjectivity under oppression falsifies the claim that no free subjectivity exists, as opposed to being systematically suppressed.
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    As Butler points out, Luce Irigaray (1985) complicates matters further. Here Irigaray’s reference is de Beauvoir’s claim that a woman “is defined and differentiated with reference to man and not he with reference to her; she is the incidental, the inessential as opposed to the essential. He is the Subject, he is the Absolute – she is the Other” (1953, 13). De Beauvoir insists that there is no time in history in which women were not the Other: men are always the One and women are always the Other
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