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    A deprivation can only be bad for a subject if that subje... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Mortality is a misfortune (death is bad for us).

    A deprivation can only be bad for a subject if that subject exists to be harmed by it (the 'no subject' problem, Epicurus).

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    • 1.Harm requires a subject with interests or welfare that can be negatively affected by events.
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    • 2.Non-existent entities cannot have experiences, preferences, or a perspective from which to suffer.
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    • 3.Without a subject to register the deprivation, calling it 'bad' lacks a coherent reference point.
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    • 1.Comparative harm (being worse off than one could have been) doesn't require conscious experience at the moment of deprivation.
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    • 2.A person existing later can be harmed by earlier events (e.g., prenatal injury) even if they didn't exist when the harm occurred.
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    • 3.The claim conflates 'experiencing harm' with 'being harmed'—these may be distinct conditions.
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