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    A game is not fully determined by its game form alone. — Carmelics
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    A game is not fully determined by its game form alone.

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    • 1.Players involved in a game may import additional features relevant for game play.
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    • 2.Players can be limited in their powers of observation by game structure or cognitive limitations.
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    • 3.Players have preferences that influence game play beyond what the game form specifies.
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    • 1.The game form already encodes all structurally relevant information: rules, strategies, outcomes, and payoff mappings for all possible play sequences.
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    • 2.Preferences, observation limits, and player identities are formally representable as components of the game form itself, making them internal rather than external additions.
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    • 3.If every purportedly external feature can be absorbed into a sufficiently rich game form, then the claim reduces to a trivial point about underspecified formal models, not games as such.
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    • 1.In the tradition of Savage and Anscombe-Aumann, rational agents are defined precisely by utility functions derivable from consistent preference orderings, which are themselves formally specifiable.
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    • 2.If player preferences are fully formalizable as payoff functions—as standard expected utility theory demands—then they are already constitutive elements of the game form, not supplements to it.
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    Game forms may be seen as spaces where players can operate. A game, however, is not fully determined by its game form alone. Rather, the players involved may import additional features relevant for game play. Players can, for instance, be limited in their powers of observation, either by aspects of the game structure or through cognitive limitations. The most striking added feature, however, is that players have preferences. Agents not only observe the world or act in it. While these describe me
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