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    A liberal state can promote the good of its citizenry onl... — Carmelics
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    A liberal state can promote the good of its citizenry only in ways consistent with every reasonable conception of the good

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    • 1.A liberal state must be strictly neutral on matters of the good
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    • 2.Promoting a particular conception of the good would violate liberal neutrality
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    • 1.Mill himself argued that individuality and self-development are objectively superior goods that the state may legitimately cultivate.
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    • 2.A state that treats self-determination as merely one preference among many cannot coherently justify the liberal freedoms it claims to protect.
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    • 3.Perfectionist liberals like Joseph Raz demonstrate that autonomy requires material and social conditions the state must actively promote, not merely permit.
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    • 1.The requirement of consistency with 'every reasonable conception of the good' is self-defeating, as many reasonable conceptions endorse illiberal communal arrangements.
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    • 2.Rawlsian political liberalism already concedes that the state must presuppose the good of free and equal citizenship, refuting strict neutrality from within liberal theory.
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    Mill’s perfectionist justification of liberal essentials also provides a contrast with an influential strand in recent Anglo-American philosophical defenses of liberalism that insist on neutrality among rival conceptions of the good life (see Turner 2017). According to many contemporary liberals, neutrality about the good is a constitutive commitment of liberalism, and liberal neutrality places limits on the justification of state action. Liberal governments, on this view, can and must enforce i
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