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    It is not the case that A person cannot conceive of their own flourishing without conceiving of others as sharing in that flourishing.

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    • 1.Nietzsche's Übermensch achieves flourishing through self-overcoming that explicitly rejects herd-based conceptions of shared welfare.
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    • 2.A conception of flourishing grounded in radical self-creation can be fully coherent without positing others as co-participants in one's good.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Derek Parfit's reductionist account of personal identity shows that 'the self' whose flourishing is conceived is not a robust enough entity to generate necessary social extensions.
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    • 2.If the boundaries of self are indeterminate, the inference from self-interest to necessarily shared flourishing smuggles in a substantive social ontology that requires independent justification.
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    • 1.Interests in other persons cannot be satisfied without consciousness that those other persons are themselves satisfied.
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    • 2.When a person contemplates being in a better state or on the way to the best, that contemplation necessarily includes others not merely as means but as co-participants.
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