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    Challenges→Separating space-time structures into manifold and metric opens up problems for determinism beyond the hole argument

    A problem that is empirically and causally quarantined from the observable universe does not constitute a genuine failure of determinism for the physical world as modeled.

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    • 1.Physical models aim to explain observable phenomena; unobservable domains fall outside their explanatory scope and success criteria.
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    • 2.If a system is causally isolated from us, its indeterminism cannot propagate into our world, so determinism of accessible reality remains intact.
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    • 3.Requiring determinism in causally quarantined regions would demand empirically unfalsifiable metaphysical commitments beyond science's proper domain.
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    • 1.The laws of physics apply universally; selective application only to observable regions is arbitrary and undermines physical law's coherence.
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    • 2.Causal quarantine is unstable—quantum fields permeate all space, and black holes eventually evaporate, reconnecting isolated regions to observation.
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    • 3.A complete physical theory requires explaining all reality, not just what we access; determinism is a fundamental feature, not merely pragmatic.
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