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    It is not the case that A rat-delusion (hallucination of pink rats) involves a distinctive sensory experience that dictates an erroneous perceptual judgment by accurately representing features present in that experience

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    • 1.Hallucinations, unlike illusions, lack any external object whose properties could be 'accurately represented' in experience.
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    • 2.Without an external referent, the notion of a sensory experience 'accurately representing features present in it' collapses into incoherence.
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    • 3.Therefore the illusionist structural analogy fails: hallucinations cannot inherit the representative accuracy that illusions derive from real objects.
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    • 1.Ayer and the sense-datum tradition hold that hallucinations reveal a layer of experience numerically distinct from physical objects.
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    • 2.If hallucinatory experience has its own intrinsic qualitative character independently of the world, then erroneous judgment arises from misidentifying sense-data with absent objects, not from experience 'dictating' judgment by accurate self-representation.
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    • 3.The claim thus mislocates the error: it is a classificatory mistake about the status of sense-data, not a case of accurate inner representation generating false outer belief.
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    • 1.Cases of illusion and delusion are of the same basic type
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    • 2.In illusion cases, the sensory experience dictates an erroneous judgment by accurately representing features present in the experience
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    • 3.Therefore the same structure applies to delusion cases such as an alcoholic judging that pink rats are visible when none are present
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