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    A ruler who cannot defend their kingdom without violating... — Carmelics
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    A ruler who cannot defend their kingdom without violating justice ought to abdicate

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    • 1.Justice is a non-negotiable constraint on rulership
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    • 2.No political necessity justifies the violation of justice
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    • 1.A ruler bears special obligations to protect subjects that override the ruler's personal moral purity.
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    • 2.Machiavelli and Weber's 'ethics of responsibility' holds that political actors are judged by consequences for those they govern, not adherence to absolute moral rules.
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    • 3.Abdication that leaves subjects vulnerable to conquest or chaos is itself a grave injustice, making the original dilemma irresolvable by resignation.
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    • 1.Walzer's 'dirty hands' thesis establishes that political necessity can create genuine moral dilemmas where all available choices violate some moral norm.
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    • 2.If justice-violation is unavoidable in certain defensive scenarios, the claim conflates moral tragedy with moral impermissibility, demanding an impossible standard.
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    Being a philosopher is in practice the same as being a Christian, he notes (CWE 27: 214). The ruler must not shirk his moral obligations. “Power without goodness is unmitigated tyranny” (CWE 27: 220). In an even more radical tone, Erasmus declares: “If you cannot defend your kingdom without violating justice…then abdicate” (CWE 27: 217).
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